The core offering of Edgemont Hoops is Tri-County Basketball League travel teams. Before your child tries out for, please see below for Q&A.
WHAT IS THE MISSION OF OUR TRAVEL PROGRAM? Travel basketball offers Edgemont children an opportunity to learn basketball from experienced professional coaches, build skills, play competitively, and enjoy camaraderie with friends and neighbors in a serious, fun, positive, and team-oriented environment. Edgemont Hoops believes in the “modern” (i.e. position-less) game where each and every participating child, regardless of size, athleticism, or prior basketball experience:
-Is given ample opportunity to master all individual fundamentals and team concepts (click here for more detail on the program’s player development goals);
-Competes against the most talented players from neighborhing communities;
-Achieves a satisfying level of personal proficiency; and
-Develops a lifelong love and respect for the game of basketball.
WHO ORGANIZES, FUNDS, AND ADMINISTERS EDGEMONT TRAVEL BASKETBALL? Edgemont travel is organized and overseen by Edgemont Travel Basketball Inc. (d/b/a Edgemont Hoops), a New York State nonprofit corporation run by volunteers who reside in the community. Click here to learn more about the organization.
IN WHICH LEAGUE DOES EDGEMONT TRAVEL PARTICIPATE? Edgemont teams compete in the Tri-County Basketball League.
WHEN AND WHERE ARE GAMES AND PRACTICES? Tryouts begin in mid/late-October and practices commence shortly thereafter. Practices are generally on Monday and Wednesday evenings at Seely or Greenville, with a few on Friday nights.
The travel season consists of 14 regular-season games and every team makes the playoffs. Most games are on Sundays between 11am and 5pm. Some are on Friday nights and late Saturday afternoons, while a handful are played Monday through Thursday.
Home games are played primarily at EHS with some (for younger teams) in the Greenville APR.
Game schedules are not developed until the first week of November. The first games for the 2021-22 season will likely be held the weekend of November 19-21. The regular season concludes in mid-February before winter break. Playoffs commence after winter break and continue to early March, if teams advance.
IS EDGEMONT TRAVEL AN AAU PROGRAM? No. Edgemont’s travel teams, and the teams against which we compete, draw players solely from their own communities. AAU (or club) teams allow players from any communities to try out for their teams and play in leagues that are separate from the travel league.
WHO COACHES THE TEAMS? All teams and clinics are coached by experienced professionals (not parents).
WHY DOES THE PROGRAM ONLY USE OUTSIDE COACHES? Edgemont travel coaches generally have more experience than parent coaches. Further, competitive basketball requires difficult decisions regarding team selection and playing time, among others. Edgemont travel believes these decisions are best made by individuals who have no conflicts (or appearance thereof).
WHO IS ELIGIBLE TO PLAN ON EDGEMONT TRAVEL TEAMS? Children who reside within the legal borders of the Edgemont Union Free School District (including children who live in Edgemont, but attend school elsewhere) are eligible to participate in the Edgemont travel program. Also eligible are students who reside outside of the school district but “tuition in” to attend Edgemont schools.
MY CHILD IS PRETTY BUSY. HOW BIG IS THE TRAVEL COMMITMENT? The travel program requires a significant commitment beginning in late October/early November, with typically 3-4 events per week. After Thanksgiving, rec basketball begins, so travel players can expect 4+ total basketball events per week on average during December, January, February, and sometimes into early March.
Before registering for tryouts, please make sure your family is able to make a full commitment to travel basketball.
IS TRAVEL BASKETBALL AGE-BASED OR GRADE-BASED? CAN KIDS PLAY UP A GRADE? The Edgemont travel basketball teams are primarily organized by grade. However, a family may request for a child to play up a grade only if the child could have enrolled in the higher grade (per Edgemont UFSD school policies regarding age cutoffs).
Coaches will only admit a lower-grade player to a higher-grade roster if they believe playing up is developmentally more appropriate for the child. Players who attend higher-grade tryouts but do not make the team will retain eligibility to try out for their own grade’s team.
Ultimately, the decision to allow a child to play up a grade rests with the program administrator and the individual coach.
Regardless of age, players may not play down a grade (as per Tri-County Basketball League rules).
HOW MUCH DOES A TRAVEL SEASON COST AND WHAT DOES IT COVER? The per-player cost for the 2021-22 season will be $695 ($645 if no uniform is required). All program payments are allocated to expenses which including coaching, insurance, gym rentals, league fees, referee fees, and equipment. As volunteers are responsible for organizing the program, we incur no administrative costs.
HOW MANY BASKETBALL EVENTS DOES THE FEE INCLUDE? There are approximately 25-30 team practices and 15-20 games/scrimmages over the course of an Edgemont travel season.
WHY ARE TRAVEL PLAYERS REQUIRED TO ALSO PLAY EDGEMONT RECREATION BASKETBALL? Edgemont travel is not intended to replace or compete with our recreational program. In fact, travel and rec have long worked in close partnership to ensure there is a basketball-playing option for every interested Edgemont child. For travel players, rec offers a great opportunity to get additional playing time and enjoy a less competitive, more relaxed setting. NOTE: the programs coordinate schedules to avoid conflicts (i.e., travel and rec practices will not be on the same night. Further, rec games are on Saturday mornings and no travel games will be scheduled during rec games).
CAN I JUST SIGN MY CHILD UP FOR REC TO MEET THE REQUIREMENT, BUT HAVE HIM/HER SKIP MOST REC EVENTS? No. All travel players are required to fully participate in Edgemont Recreation basketball.
WHAT’S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN EDGEMONT’S TRAVEL AND REC PROGRAMS? Travel is more serious and requires far more preparation for games (and therefore a much bigger time commitment), and is designed for boys and girls who love basketball, are committed to improving, and for whom basketball is the primary winter sport. The travel season begins in late September/early October and teams will have approximately 20 hours of practice before their first game, while rec doesn’t start until early December. Travel games are played against teams from other towns and school districts located up to 30 minutes away, while rec games are played at one nearby location. There are no cuts in rec, but travel teams require tryouts.
Some home games for our younger teams are held on Mondays, Wednesdays, or Fridays at Greenville. Away games may be on any day, but are usually not on Mondays through Thursdays. They are rarely more than a 25-minute drive from Edgemont.
DOES THE TRAVEL PROGRAM PRIMARILY FOCUS ON WINNING? Travel teams in the highly competitive Tri-County Basketball League play to win, and Edgemont’s program is no exception. However, we do not take a “win-at-all-costs” approach. Our coaches seek to achieve a reasonable balance of player development and strategy while making every effort to ensure that all players, regardless of skill level, have an opportunity to contribute.
MY CHILD PLAYS FALL AND WINTER AAU BASKETBALL. CAN HE OR SHE STILL PLAY EDGEMONT TRAVEL? Yes, provided that Edgemont travel is prioritized in the event of a conflict. However, please note that it can be challenging to manage 3 winter basketball schedules (AAU, Edgemont travel, and Edgemont rec) simultaneously. We generally recommend that competitive players join their community travel and rec teams in the winter and play AAU in the spring, summer and fall seasons.
CAN MY CHILD PLAY EDGEMONT TRAVEL SOCCER AND TRAVEL BASKETBALL? Yes. While Edgemont travel basketball starts while fall travel soccer is in season, events are scheduled to avoid conflicts with travel soccer games and practices. However, in the winter (i.e. during prime basketball season), Edgemont travel basketball players are expected to prioritize basketball over soccer (e.g. indoor training).
CAN MY CHILD PLAY NON-EDGEMONT “ACADEMY” SOCCER AND TRAVEL BASKETBALL? It depends on the extent of the winter select soccer commitment. A once-per-week soccer program that doesn’t conflict with travel basketball practices can work, but a heavy soccer schedule that continues through the winter (e.g. multiple weeknight practices and weekend games/tournaments) is not feasible. In those cases, rec basketball is likely the more suitable option.
WE SKI FREQUENTLY IN THE WINTER. CAN MY CHILD STILL PLAY TRAVEL? No. Travel basketball requires a heavy weekend commitment from December through early March (note: there is no travel basketball during the Christmas and mid-February school breaks).
CAN MY 4TH- THROUGH 6TH-GRADE SON PARTICIPATE IN EDGEMONT WRESTLING AND TRAVEL BASKETBALL? Possibly, though there will likely be conflicts. Please contact Pete Jacobson, head of the wrestling program, for more information about the wrestling commitment and his program’s compatibility with travel basketball. Please keep in mind, however, that the combination of travel basketball/rec basketball/wrestling is quite demanding.
CAN MY 7TH- OR 8TH-GRADE CHILD PLAY BOTH AN EHS MODIFIED SPORT AND TRAVEL HOOPS? Yes. Travel basketball practices and games are scheduled to avoid conflicts with Edgemont High School’s modified sports program (which is limited to weekdays and typically concludes by 6:00pm).
WHAT IF MY CHILD MISSES A LOT OF PRACTICES AND GAMES? Some conflicts are inevitable, but players are expected to make as many games and practices as possible and prioritize Edgemont travel basketball during the winter season. In fairness to teammates and coaches, families are expected to determine, as early as possible, potential conflicts (vacations, family obligations, religious observances, etc.) and communicate them to the coach and/or team manager. Missed practices will likely result in less playing time in games.
IS PLAYING TIME EQUAL IN TRAVEL BASKETBALL? No. Due to the competitive nature of travel basketball, playing time is earned based on each player’s performance in both practices and games. During practice, every player will be given the same instruction. In games, coaches will do their best to distribute playing time fairly while a) attempting to win the game; and b) ensuring that children are placed in competitively appropriate situations where they have a reasonable chance to succeed and help their team.
HOW MANY PLAYERS WILL MAKE EACH TRAVEL TEAM? As a general guideline, Edgemont travel teams carry 10-12 players on their rosters.
WHAT CRITERIA ARE EMPLOYED TO SELECT PLAYERS? Deciding who should make each team is not an exact science. The coaches, with the assistance of additional evaluators attending the tryouts, will do their best to identify the best players for each team, which need different types of players to be successful. Factors considered by the coaches include skill-level, experience, position, basketball IQ, hustle, athleticism, coachability/ability to follow directions, selflessness, role/potential to contribute, enthusiasm, attitude, sportsmanship, and body language.
WILL THERE BE CUTS?, It depends on tryout attendance, which can vary significantly from year to year. If, for example, 10 kids attend travel tryouts and the coaches and commissioner believe that the team could be reasonably competitive, there would be no cuts. But if a larger number of children try out, cuts are possible.
THERE IS NO GUARANTEE THAT EACH GRADE WILL FIELD A BOYS AND GIRLS TEAM EACH YEAR. The number of Edgemont teams in any given year is not predetermined, but rather will be driven by interest, commitment, and ability. As a small district, we are sometimes unable to field an appropriately competitive team every season for every grade/gender, or simply do not have enough participation.
WILL THERE BE MORE THAN ONE TEAM PER GRADE? The program typically fields no more than one boys and one girls travel team per age/grade level. Exceptions are considered on a case-by-case basis in the unusual instance where the depth of talent and potential in a particular age group allows us to field more than one team at an acceptable competitive level. In recent years, Edgemont’s very few B teams have not been competitive.
WHY HAVE CUTS AT ALL? WHY NOT JUST HAVE VERY LARGE ROSTERS AND/OR B AND C TEAMS? Cutting kids is not preferred, but unfortunately there are practical limitations on how many kids can participate at the travel level. Large rosters are not manageable and dilute the experience for all. Further, Edgemont is a small community, so historically many of our A teams play in the B (lowest) division.
Unlike travel soccer leagues, the Tri-County Basketball League does not have “developmental” divisions. It has AA, A, and B divisions which are intended to match up roughly with school district size. B divisions are competitive (as they include teams from significantly larger communities) and the league expects participating programs to field competitively appropriate teams.
WHY DO GAME OUTCOMES MATTER AT THIS AGE? They don’t, as long as a team has the opportunity to play a reasonable number of competitive games over the course of the season. We’ve found that playing on a non-competitive team is not conducive to developing skills or fostering a love of the sport.
IF MY CHILD PLAYED ON A TRAVEL TEAM LAST YEAR, WILL HE/SHE AUTOMATICALLY MAKE THE TEAM THIS YEAR? No. Each season starts with a “clean slate” for all players. Rosters will be determined based on many factors and no spots on any team are guaranteed.
IS TRAVEL BASKETBALL FOR EVERYONE? No. Compared to recreational play, it is more serious and, at times, somewhat intense. Parents should consider whether the program is a good fit for their child.
ARE PARENTS ALLOWED IN THE GYM DURING TRYOUTS? No.
HOW CAN I HELP MY CHILD PREPARE FOR TRYOUTS? Working on fundamentals is the best preparation. Click here for a curriculum.
HOW WILL I BE NOTIFIED IF MY CHILD IS SELECTED FOR A TEAM? WHAT HAPPENS NEXT? After an travel team spot is offered, families will be expected to reply promptly, as the process of selecting teams is difficult and stressful. Offers to other interested players may be contingent upon whether those initially offered a spot accept or turn down their offer.
ARE REFUNDS AVAILABLE IF MY CHILD DOESN’T ENJOY HIS OR HER EXPERIENCE? No. Fees are set based upon an assumed level of participation such that the program can cover its team-specific (e.g. coaches) and fixed (insurance) costs. Once teams are selected, payments are due and we cannot offer refunds.
WHAT OPTIONS DO I HAVE IF MY CHILD DOESN’T MAKE A TRAVEL TEAM? In addition to Edgemont Recreation basketball, the travel program organizes clinics and open gym sessions for kids seeking to improve. Further, there are many other nearby opportunities to join teams and develop skills both in-season and during the off-season.
I AM A PARENT AND WOULD LIKE TO COACH OR OTHERWISE BE INVOLVED IN YOUTH BASKETBALL IN EDGEMONT. WHAT ARE MY OPTIONS? All travel players are required to play Edgemont Recreation basketball, which relies on parent coaches (contact Jen Frain to volunteer). Also, parents can run “open gym” sessions in Edgemont facilities (contact Jon Lewis for an available gym slot).
Parent volunteers can also help out travel teams in a number of ways, including (but not limited to):
-Overseeing extra gym time (e.g. team shootarounds, informal open gym sessions, etc.);
-Accumulating uniform information;
-Handling certain administrative tasks (e.g. gathering player information) required by the league; and
-Assisting at the scorer’s table.
WHAT IF I STILL HAVE QUESTIONS? Contact Jon Lewis.