WHAT IS THE MISSION OF OUR TRAVEL PROGRAM? Travel basketball offers Edgemont children an opportunity to learn basketball from experienced professional coaches, build skills, play competitively, and enjoy camaraderie with friends and neighbors in a serious, fun, positive, and team-oriented environment. Edgemont Hoops believes in the “modern” (i.e. position-less) game where each and every participating child, regardless of size, athleticism, or prior basketball experience:
-Is given ample opportunity to master all individual fundamentals and team concepts (click here for more detail on the program’s player development goals);
-Competes against the most talented players from neighboring communities;
-Achieves a satisfying level of personal proficiency; and
-Develops a lifelong love and respect for the game.
WHO ORGANIZES, FUNDS, AND ADMINISTERS EDGEMONT TRAVEL BASKETBALL? Edgemont travel is organized and overseen by Edgemont Travel Basketball Inc. (d/b/a Edgemont Hoops), a New York State nonprofit corporation run by volunteers who reside in the community. Click here to learn more about the organization.
IN WHICH LEAGUE DOES EDGEMONT TRAVEL PARTICIPATE? Edgemont teams compete in the Tri-County Basketball League.
WHEN AND WHERE ARE GAMES AND PRACTICES? Tryouts typically begin in early/mid-October and team practices commence shortly thereafter. Practices are generally on Monday and Wednesday evenings at Seely or Greenville, with a few on Friday nights.
The travel season consists of 14 regular-season games and every team makes the playoffs. Most games are on Sundays between 11am and 5pm starting in late November. Some are on Friday nights and late Saturday afternoons, while a handful are played Monday through Thursday.
Home games are played primarily at EHS with some (for younger teams) in the Greenville APR. Away games may be on any day, but are usually not on Mondays through Thursdays. They are rarely more than a 25-minute drive from Edgemont.
Game schedules are not developed until the first week of November. The first games for the 2021-22 season will likely be held the weekend of November 19-21. The regular season concludes in mid-February just before winter break. Playoffs commence after winter break and continue to early March, if teams advance.
IS EDGEMONT TRAVEL AN AAU PROGRAM? No. Edgemont’s travel teams, and the teams against which we compete, draw players solely from their own communities. AAU (or club) teams allow players from any communities to try out for their teams and play in leagues that are separate from the travel league.
WHO COACHES THE TEAMS? All teams and clinics are coached by experienced professionals (not parents).
WHY DOES THE PROGRAM ONLY USE OUTSIDE COACHES? Edgemont travel coaches generally have more experience than parent coaches. Further, competitive basketball requires difficult decisions regarding player selection and playing time, among others. Edgemont travel believes these decisions are best made by individuals who have no conflicts (or appearance thereof).
WHO IS ELIGIBLE TO PLAN ON EDGEMONT TRAVEL TEAMS? Children who reside within the legal borders of the Edgemont Union Free School District (including children who live in Edgemont, but attend school elsewhere) are eligible to participate in the Edgemont travel program. Also eligible are students who reside outside of the school district but “tuition in” to attend Edgemont schools.
MY CHILD IS PRETTY BUSY. HOW BIG IS THE TRAVEL COMMITMENT? The travel program requires a significant commitment, starting with 2 events per week in mid-October and increasing to 3-4 starting in November.
Before registering for tryouts, please make sure your child is able to make a full commitment to travel basketball.
IS TRAVEL BASKETBALL AGE-BASED OR GRADE-BASED? CAN KIDS PLAY UP A GRADE? Edgemont travel basketball teams are primarily organized by grade. However, league rules do allow players to play up a grade.
Edgemont travel will consider case-by-case requests to try out up a grade only if the child could have enrolled in the higher grade (as per Edgemont UFSD school policies regarding age cutoffs).
Ultimately, coaches will only admit a lower-grade player to a higher-grade roster if they believe playing up is developmentally more appropriate for the child. Players who initially attend higher-grade tryouts but do not make the higher-grade team will retain eligibility to try out for their own grade’s team.
Ultimately, final decisions to allow a child to play up a grade will rest with the individual coach on a case-by-case basis.
Regardless of age, players may not play down a grade.
HOW MUCH DOES A TRAVEL SEASON COST AND WHAT DOES IT COVER? The per-player cost for the 2021-22 season is yet to be determined, but seasons typically run in the $600-$700 range. All program payments are allocated to expenses which including professional coaching, insurance, gym rentals, league fees, referee fees, equipment, and organization fees (e.g. accounting/tax). All day-to-day program administration is done on a volunteer basis.
HOW MANY BASKETBALL EVENTS DOES THE FEE INCLUDE? There are typically 40-50 events (practices, skills training, scrimmages, and games) over the course of an Edgemont travel season.
CAN MY CHILD PLAY BOTH EDGEMONT TRAVEL AND EDGEMONT RECREATION BASKETBALL? Yes, and rec is strongly encouraged for most Edgemont travel players. Please note that Edgemont travel is not intended to replace or compete with our recreational program. In fact, travel and rec have long worked in close partnership to ensure there is a basketball-playing option for every interested Edgemont child.
For travel players, rec offers a great opportunity to get additional playing time and enjoy a less competitive and more relaxed setting playing with and against friends. NOTE: the programs coordinate schedules to avoid conflicts (i.e., travel and rec practices will not be on the same night. Further, rec games are on Saturday mornings and no travel games will be scheduled during rec games).
WHAT’S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN EDGEMONT’S TRAVEL AND REC PROGRAMS? Travel is significantly more competitive and requires far more preparation for games (and therefore a much bigger time commitment), and is designed for boys and girls who are serious about the game and for whom basketball is their primary winter sport.
The travel season begins in much earlier than rec. Travel games are played against teams from other towns and school districts located up to 30 minutes away, while rec games are played at one nearby location. There are no cuts in rec, but travel teams require tryouts.
DOES THE TRAVEL PROGRAM PRIMARILY FOCUS ON WINNING? Our opponents in the highly competitive Tri-County Basketball League all play to win, and Edgemont’s program is no exception. However, we do not take a “win-at-all-costs” approach. Our coaches seek to achieve a reasonable balance of player development and strategy while making every effort to ensure that all players, regardless of skill level, have an opportunity to contribute.
MY CHILD PLAYS FALL AND WINTER AAU BASKETBALL. CAN HE OR SHE STILL PLAY EDGEMONT TRAVEL? Yes, provided that Edgemont travel is prioritized in the event of a conflict. However, please note that it can be challenging to manage multiple winter basketball schedules, many of which play games in similar time slots. We generally recommend that competitive players join their community travel and rec teams in the winter and play AAU in the spring, summer, and early fall seasons.
CAN MY CHILD PLAY EDGEMONT TRAVEL SOCCER AND TRAVEL BASKETBALL? Yes. While Edgemont travel basketball starts while fall travel soccer is still in season, events are scheduled to avoid conflicts with travel soccer games and practices. However, in the winter (i.e. during prime basketball season), Edgemont travel basketball players are expected to prioritize basketball over any winter travel soccer activities (e.g. indoor training or tournaments).
CAN MY CHILD PLAY NON-EDGEMONT “ACADEMY” SOCCER AND TRAVEL BASKETBALL? It depends on the extent of the winter select soccer commitment. A once-per-week soccer program that doesn’t conflict with travel basketball practices can work, but a heavy soccer schedule that continues through the winter (e.g. multiple weeknight practices and weekend games/tournaments) is not feasible. In those cases, rec basketball is likely the more suitable option.
WE OFTEN TAKE FAMILY WEEKEND GETAWAYS IN THE WINTER. CAN MY CHILD STILL PLAY TRAVEL? No. Travel basketball requires a heavy weekend commitment from December through early March, and there is likley to be a travel basketball event on every Sunday, except over school breaks.
CAN MY 4TH- THROUGH 6TH-GRADE SON PARTICIPATE IN EDGEMONT WRESTLING AND TRAVEL BASKETBALL? Possibly, though there will likely be conflicts. Please contact Pete Jacobson, head of the wrestling program, for more information about the wrestling commitment and his program’s compatibility with travel basketball. Please keep in mind, however, that the combination of travel basketball/rec basketball/wrestling is quite demanding.
CAN MY 7TH- OR 8TH-GRADE CHILD PLAY BOTH AN EHS MODIFIED SPORT AND TRAVEL HOOPS? Yes. Travel basketball practices and games are scheduled to avoid conflicts with Edgemont High School’s modified sports program (which is limited to weekdays and typically concludes by 6:00pm).
WHAT IF MY CHILD MISSES A LOT OF PRACTICES AND GAMES? Some conflicts are inevitable, but players are expected to make as many games and practices as possible and prioritize Edgemont travel basketball during the winter season. In fairness to teammates and coaches, families are expected to determine, as early as possible, potential conflicts (vacations, family obligations, religious observances, etc.) and communicate them to the coach and/or team manager. Missed practices will likely result in less playing time in games.
IS PLAYING TIME EQUAL IN TRAVEL BASKETBALL? No. Due to the competitive nature of travel basketball, playing time is earned based on each player’s performance in both practices and games. During practice, every player will be given the same instruction. In games, coaches will do their best to distribute playing time fairly while a) attempting to win the game; and b) ensuring that children are placed in competitively appropriate situations where they have a reasonable chance to succeed and help their team.
HOW MANY PLAYERS WILL MAKE EACH TRAVEL TEAM? Edgemont travel teams typically carry between 10 and 12 players on their rosters. The final decision on roster size will reside with each team’s coach after tryout evaluations.
WHAT CRITERIA ARE EMPLOYED TO SELECT PLAYERS? Deciding who should make each team is not an exact science. Coaches, with the assistance of additional evaluators attending the tryouts, will do their best to identify the best players for each team, which need different types of players to be successful. Factors considered by the coaches include skill-level, experience, position, basketball IQ, hustle, athleticism, coachability/ability to follow directions, selflessness, role/potential to contribute, enthusiasm, attitude, sportsmanship, and body language.
WILL THERE BE CUTS?, It depends on tryout attendance, which can vary significantly from year to year. If, for example, 10 kids attend travel tryouts and the coaches and commissioner believe that the team could be reasonably competitive, there would be no cuts. But if a larger number of children try out, cuts are likely.
THERE IS NO GUARANTEE THAT EACH GRADE WILL FIELD A BOYS AND GIRLS TEAM EACH YEAR. The number of Edgemont teams in any given year is not predetermined, but rather will be driven by interest, commitment, and ability. As a small district, we are sometimes unable to field an appropriately competitive team every season for every grade/gender, or simply do not have enough participation.
WILL THERE BE MORE THAN ONE TEAM PER GRADE? The program almost always fields one boys and one girls travel team per age/grade level. Exceptions are rare. In recent years, Edgemont’s very few B teams have not been competitive.
WHY HAVE CUTS AT ALL? WHY NOT JUST HAVE VERY LARGE ROSTERS AND/OR B AND C TEAMS? Cutting kids is not preferred, but unfortunately there are practical limitations on how many kids can participate at the travel level. Large rosters are not manageable and dilute the experience for all. Further, Edgemont is a small community, so historically many of our A teams play in the B (lowest) division to begin with.
Unlike travel soccer leagues, the Tri-County Basketball League does not have “developmental” divisions. It has AA, A, and B divisions which are intended to match up roughly with school district size. Its B divisions are competitive (as they include teams from significantly larger communities) and the league expects participating programs to field competitively appropriate teams.
WHY DO GAME OUTCOMES MATTER AT THIS AGE? They don’t, as long as a team has the opportunity to play a reasonable number of competitive games over the course of the season. Over time, our coaches and administrators have found that playing on a non-competitive team is not conducive to developing skills or fostering a love of the sport.
IF MY CHILD PLAYED ON A TRAVEL TEAM LAST YEAR, WILL HE/SHE AUTOMATICALLY MAKE THE TEAM THIS YEAR? No. Each season starts with a “clean slate” for all players. Rosters will be determined based on many factors and no spots on any team are guaranteed.
IS TRAVEL BASKETBALL FOR EVERYONE? No. Compared to recreational play, it is more serious and, at times, somewhat intense. Parents should consider whether the program is a good fit for their child.
ARE PARENTS ALLOWED IN THE GYM DURING TRYOUTS? No.
HOW CAN I HELP MY CHILD PREPARE FOR TRYOUTS? Working on fundamentals is the best preparation. Click here for a curriculum.
HOW WILL I BE NOTIFIED IF MY CHILD IS SELECTED FOR A TEAM? WHAT HAPPENS NEXT? After an travel team spot is offered, families will be expected to reply promptly, as the process of selecting teams is difficult and stressful. Offers to other interested players may be contingent upon whether those initially offered a spot accept or turn down their offer.
ARE REFUNDS AVAILABLE IF MY CHILD DOESN’T ENJOY HIS OR HER EXPERIENCE? No. Fees are set based upon an assumed level of participation such that the program can cover its team-specific (e.g. coaches) and fixed (insurance) costs. Once teams are selected, payments are due and we cannot offer refunds.
WHAT OPTIONS DO I HAVE IF MY CHILD DOESN’T MAKE A TRAVEL TEAM? In addition to Edgemont Recreation basketball for grades 3 through 6, the travel program organizes clinics and open gym sessions for kids seeking to improve. We are also hoping to have a boys rec league for grades 7 through 12 during the 2021-22 season as well as supervised open play / pickup games throughout the school year.
Further, there are many other nearby opportunities to join teams and develop skills both in-season and during the off-season.
I AM A PARENT AND WOULD LIKE TO COACH OR OTHERWISE BE INVOLVED IN YOUTH BASKETBALL IN EDGEMONT. WHAT ARE MY OPTIONS? Edgemont Recreation basketball relies on parent coaches (contact Jen Frain to volunteer). Also, parents can run “open gym” sessions in Edgemont facilities (contact Jon Lewis for an available gym slot).
Parent volunteers can also help out travel teams in a number of ways, including (but not limited to):
-Overseeing extra gym time (e.g. team shootarounds, informal open gym sessions, etc.);
-Accumulating uniform information;
-Handling certain administrative tasks (e.g. gathering player information) required by the league; and
-Assisting at the scorer’s table.
WHAT IF I STILL HAVE QUESTIONS? Contact Jon Lewis.